Tongue Diagnosis and Acne

Comment by Archived User

To be more precise there are red dots on the tip which spreads to the sides of the tongue (the end below middle of the tongue) and there are cracks on the sides and in the middle line but it’s not much visible on the photo. The crack is not straight line but just broken line and most deep cracks are on the front-middle of the tongue.

Comment by Chad J. Dupuis, L.Ac.

Let’s start with clarifying when you say “I cured myself with TCM” - what did you do exactly. Are you currently receiving acupuncture and/or taking herbal medicine and if so what, why, for how long and with what result. And is the tongue a before and after or is that the same day? I ask because they look fairly different…

Comment by Archived User

I used pattern medicine and qi gong, I do not using anything right now as I do not know what I should attack to clear the skin. The tongue is the same day but in different light so we can see it in different contrast but it’s the same.

Thank you

Comment by Chad J. Dupuis, L.Ac.

What formulas and qi gong specifically and what did your tongue look like previously, ie what was the original pattern you feel that you resolved successfully?

Comment by Archived User

FANG FENG TONG SHENG WAN
Zhi Bai Di Huang Wan
zhu zhen an zhuang wan
Dang Gui Liu Huang Wan
BA ZHENG WAN
BAI TOU WENG WAN
DANG GUI LIU HUANG WAN
FANG FENG TONG SHENG WAN
HUANG LIAN JIE DU WAN
LI ZONG WAN
LIU JUN ZI WAN
JingJieLianQiaoTang
BU ZHONG YI QI WAN 1x ER LONG ZUO CI WAN
Gui Pi Wan
HUO XIANG ZHENG QI WAN
JIA WEI XIAO YAO WAN
JIN GUI SHEN QI WAN
JIN SUO GU JING WAN
LI ZONG WAN
LIU WEI DI HUANG WAN
MING MU DI HUANG WAN
SHENG MAI WAN
SHI QUAN DA BU WAN
SI JUN ZI WAN
SI WU WAN
BEI XIE SHEN SHI TANG JIA JIAN
long dan xie gan tang

I used it them thru couple of years. Qigong practices I’m doing are not shareable at this moment - I’m anyway slacking in them but if there is no hope from TCM then I will just do them more intensely .

Generally coating changes thru those years but the cracks, teeth marks and red dots stay all the time on the tongue.

Comment by Archived User

Heat … Li 11, Sp 10 (vent toxic heat in the blood, vent that heat through the skin) is what comes to mind when looking at your tongue. It looks like the tongue is scalloped which may be an underlying dehydration issue in the body. Look for an acupuncturist / herbalist that specializes in skin problems. The body takes about 3 months to hydrate according to Dr Batmanghelidj who spent his life researching the effects of dehydration. Check out his recommendations for hydration … maybe check out magnesium levels in your body. Dr Carolyn Dean has written a good book on the effect of lacking magnesium.

Comment by Archived User

Thanks. I drink pretty a lot of water.

I used to pattern medicine for toxic heat and it felt better but still didn’t resolve bumps appearing and disappearing.

Comment by Archived User

So do you have any tips?

Comment by Chad J. Dupuis, L.Ac.

Generally looking through your formulas and not knowing how much you took of and when you took this with others or alone, etc. (basically not knowing much from the list) - most of the yin formulas would have possibly complicated your already hampered spleen deficiency and most of the tonifying formulas were likely just to add in more heat. Proper treatment generally requires the right order of approaches - i.e. clear heat and damp first, then depending either balance yin or tonify. So I would start by clearing first. Realistically though, if you feel generally good minus some acne, I would just eat well, stay hydrated, heavily avoid stimulants, sugar and dairy and just keep doing your qigong mixed with moderate amounts of walking and seated meditation and give that a few years. I think you’ve done some interesting layering by taking such a combination of formulas and in my opinion your body simply needs a break from that approach.

Comment by Archived User

but clear heat from lower, middle, blood or in general? what is the best way to tonify spleen? Gui Pi wan have no visible effect to be honest, can you give examples of formulas for that?

thank you