Death by Acupuncture

Do you still have pain in the area or has it since passed? If it has passed, I wouldn&#39t worry about it and if it hasn&#39t I would see an acupuncturist - ideally one who is also a martial artist. Certainly there is a system of pressure point fighting called dim mak but very few people really understand it. There are historical accounts of fighters being able to strike certain acupuncture points and cause internal damage - often resulting in "unexplained" death (or serious illness) days, months and in some cases years after the strike. Most of the many months/years later is largely folklore in my opinion but it is possible with a tremendous amount of serious training to learn enough to cause internal damage to organs which may not show up for days maybe weeks later. That said, while this is a popular topic to study very few people have enough control over this to accomplish much of anything.

The burning sensation was more than likely just soft tissue damage which would be expected in a situation like that. If it has passed rest easily and be sure to write us again after the 7 year mark has passed....

Yes, there are these "secret" deadly points. They can have profound physiologic effect when stimulating them. The is much magic and belief around this subject. Killer martial artists usually were very focused when directing their qi through their bodies into the vicim&#39s body. Even an angry crazy person with no skill could really hurt you by smashing your neck, breaking your voicebox, being struck in the belly and more.

Let&#39s not make more of too much of this, though. Magic and myth and legend happen. Everybody, including fighters and martial artists die. Those engaged in such activites were certainly living a dangerous lifestyle. So, statistics, which can make even our current day scientific data say pretty much anything, could certainly make a claim that the "7 years" is a scecial number.

My advice.... understand that that belief might be flawed. Talk with your doctor to be sure his exam of your abdomen is normal. If it is, look for other reasons for your digestive and immune problems, such as stress and emotional tensions. Live an active, strtress-managed life, and the 7 years will have no power.

Thank you Chad, this is helpful. Of course, you are right about the diagnosis. I am not able to see an acupuncturist but perhaps a general kidney tonic may help. There could also be a root in a totally different area, I guess (but I&#39ve been hyper since I was 3) I will go to a TCM herbalist who knows pulse diagnosis.

Thank you,

Elena

Thank you Kuma for your feedback on deadly acupuncture. I really appreciate your time.

Does anyone know what deficiency one has when one feels cold in the lower back. Is this yin or yang deficiency? Am I supposed to strenghten my yin or my yang? What herbal supplement I can get? I cannot tolerate cold weather anylonger. I am not tired, I am hyperactive but my mind is not focused. I need to be more focused and optimistic mentally. Can anyone help?

Elena

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Let me comment as a martial artist who has been studying "death touch" martial arts for a couple of decades. Yes, it is possible to cause death after a delay of several days through martial arts techniques. There are probably fewer than 1,000 martial artists in the world with the skill and knowledge to do this effectively.

That said, it cannot be done with one strike or touch, or even a series of strikes and/or touches to the same point. It requires that several points be struck, rubbed or squeezed, in the proper order and at the proper angle, and at the proper time of day. Chances of it being accomplished accidentally -- or by an amateur -- are ridiculously low. None of these points are on the solar plexus.

Also, I have never heard of anyone with any credibility claiming a delay of years is possible, and even months is a stretch. Shock your cardiac system so you&#39ll die of "sponateous" heart failure in a few days? No problemo! Cause you to die next year by what I do today? To the best of my knowledge, it can&#39t be done.

Of course it is not ideal to self medicate with herbal formulas - generally. While they are natural substances they still are quite strong and used incorrectly can cause just as many problems as western medicines, if not more. The upside to Chinese Herbal Formulas, particularly in the standardized formulas that we offer (opposed to mixing raw herbs - or taking single herbal extracts as are popular in health stores) is that the formulas themselves are well tested and in most cases quite old - many hundreds of years old in many cases. While not ideal, some are pretty straightforward and so widely used that you can at least try the formula without being overly concerned about problems. Many of the formulas for standard conditions, colds/flus, allergies, PMS, anxiety, insomnia, etc. are on the clear and reliable side of the equation. Most of what we offer within our store in particular are what we consider to be safe formulas that can be tried if they seem to fit symptoms. We, of course, recommend and prefer that people at least consult with a practitioner locally but realize that this can be difficult in certain areas and financially in cases.

There are other formulas that are used by Chinese herbalists that we don&#39t offer openly to the public because they may say they are used for one thing but have a broad range of uses or can be completely wrong for some people with that same condition (that is they have a different underlying pattern in TCM terms). On our site at least we don&#39t offer formulas that we feel can be unsafe if improperly used.

Elena, from your description I feel pretty safe to say you have nothing to worry about. I am one of the lucky very few people who have been introduced to what is called the &#39Death Touch&#39 - or Dim Mak in Chinese - in martial arts.. My teacher was a very traditional master who started his studies as a child back in the 30s in monasteries in China, he was the top student of his class later the inheritor of the entire style - what is in martial arts called the &#39generation master&#39.

What the person you described above did to you is nothing at all what the art of &#39Death Touch&#39 is. Having a &#39warm feeling&#39 after being hit is normal for just about any hit to the body, this is the body&#39s normal, natural reaction to physical trauma - trust me I&#39ve been hit a few times in my life during my martial arts studies - and also the nature of the hit tells me that it&#39s nothing that would be related to the &#39delayed death&#39.

I do however would like to ask you a few questions just to be on the absolute sure side: where EXACTLY were you hit? Was it the dead center of your body or was it to either side - even just half an inch matters!)? If it was to either side, which side and how far off your center? Please be very precise. How far down from your sternum was the hit, can you measure it for me? Did you receive multiple or just a single blow? Sounds like this was also a very hard hit, please confirm that it was a strong hit. What day AND time of the day were you hit (date and what time - around 10 am, noon ... etc.)?

Other questions: have you had an X-Ray/CT scan to eliminate any internal injury or bleeding? With a hard blow such as that, I would worry more about an internal injury, not the Death Touch. If you haven&#39t yet, please get one (or both) of the above done to be safe.

In conclusion: from your description I feel safe to say that you have nothing to worry about as far as the &#39delayed death&#39 goes, this person is just a crazy dangerous person with no skills or knowledge of this art (it is an astronomical chance that some punches without skills would work but in your case even these can be eliminated). Just please answer all of my questions but again, I see no reasons at all for you to worry beyond internal injuries. I also do hope that you have reported this person to the authorities and she is dealt with according to her actions.

Blade~

Hi Elena,

Even as martial artists I have to say it is just insane what this person did to you and have absolutely no comprehension as to how she is still living a free life and walking amongst people every day. Clearly she is capable of hurting - possibly even killing - someone and I just don&#39t know how the legal system can allow this to happen. Probably going to be the usual case when they only arrest her AFTER she has done some very serious damage or kill someone because clearly she is capable of both.

Again, from your further description I see no reason for you to be alarmed, I see no skills in the attacks, no systematical location selections and using the hammer further tells me that this person posesses no skills at all - more like a mad woman going at you with all her will and anger. Sad case in anyway.

Yes please send me all photo(s) that show your injuries or any suspicious marks on you, the more you have the better (more often than not clues you think aren&#39t important turn out to be the most important ones). The thing still buffles me here is the &#39needle marks&#39 that you mentioned, do you possibly have close ups on these? I am just trying to figure out what she tried to do while you were dazed or passed out? But sounds like you don&#39t remember her having needles anywhere when you regained consciousness? Correct?

I will e-mail you soon, please reply there and send me all pictures you have.

Again, it is just terrible what has happened to you and I&#39m glad I could help you out!

Blade~

NNormal hit point can make this area Qi and Blood stag., if it is martial arts point may be broken the energy channel can cause some kind of damage in body energy circle. the easy way to treat is put some pain killer patches on the point to promote Qi and blood movement. 8 hours each day after 7 days the pain will gone. if the energy channel been damaged, you must find martial arts injury acupuncture or tuina master use herb wine to open the channel and points to rebuild the energy channel.

Thank you Mei for your suggestions, I appreciate it. Could you please explain what is herb wine in TCM? Here I can buy alcohol extractions what they call here &#39tincture" which are usually approximatively 60% alcohol?

When I consulted a TCM doctor years ago, he gave me herbs, which he advised to be boiled for 20 minutes. As TCM is popular in California, I do find herb combination tinctures on the market such as Dragon Bone and Blood House but they are still general formulations.

Thank you again,

Thank you so much, I greatly appreciate your help and getting back to me with the explanations,

Elena

Thank you again for your help. I think I got rid of my anxiety when I realize how hard it is to hit that particular point. I needdle in the haystack. I also learned not to take my safety for granted when I read about how you can be rendered unconscious by a single knock on the temple.

Thank you everyone for your advice,

Elena