Can Ma Huang deplete kidney yin?

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Can Ma Huang deplete kidney yin?

Published on 07-11-2017


"anon28112" - this is their first post.

It is known that most stimulants including caffeine can deplete yin and weaken the kidneys. However vigorous activity and physical exercise can build yin and general internal strength. Can moderate use of ephedra (ma huang, mormon tea, etc) be used in combination with rigorous exercise to actually build yin, or will the stimulant deplete yin and negate the benefits?


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Herbs: ma huang


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comment by "ChadD" (acupuncturist)
on Jul 2017

I’m not sure why anyone would use ma huang on it’s own for one, but specifically in conjunction with exercise. Except with extremely good reasoning ma huang should not be used long-term and certainly not to enhance exercise. Further, vigorous physical activity (more specifically excessive sweating) weakens both the yin and the qi - it does not by default build the yin certainly - while it may generate physical strength (which depending on the terminology you are using is different from “internal” strength as it would be use in the context of tai chi theory for example).

I would suggest you more deeply consider what category ma huang falls in - “herbs that release the exterior wind-cold”. It is not a stimulate per se, but is unfortunately abused as such when it is used out of the context of Chinese Medicine.

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