Direct moxa, cone moxa HELP!

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Direct moxa, cone moxa HELP!

Published on 06-21-2007

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Any suggestions on how to remove direct moxa or cone moxa before it burns the skin? I'd like to try it on a client without scarring. Thank you!

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comment by "ChadD" (acupuncturist)
on Jun 2007

You simply remove it with your hand - it won't burn you. Usually you keep a stainless steel cup of water near you when you are doing direct moxa. You light the moxa and as it nears the body you remove it. You can gently dip your two fingers into water before you grab the moxa to assure you won't get burnt - but you won't if you are quick enough and don't hold on to it for long.

You should practice this on yourself extensively to get the timing right and to notice what the cone/thread looks like when it is close to the skin. Do a hundred or so threads/cones over the next week on yourself and a few different points and you should get the idea.

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comment by "archived-user"
on Jul 2007

Forgive me if I'm wrong but from the question I got that 'tamarbaretz' was asking how do you know when to remove the moxa cone before it burns the patient's skin.

I actually had a fairly bad experience with moxa cones when I visited this beginner practitioner for a cold. He used the cones on me and one of them burnt the spot on my finger - for which the pain and scar lasted for several days.

So I guess I also would be interested to know how do you know when it's time to remove the moxa cones? Do you ask the patient to tell you when it feels uncomfortable?

Thank you!

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comment by "ChadD" (acupuncturist)
on Jul 2007

If you read the second paragraph I wrote in my reply, that addresses the issue directly - the answer is practice. There are so many variations on cone sizes and usage of moxibustion that an answer depends on - so you need to practice on your own with whatever style of moxa you use most regularly and get used to what it looks like when it is close and what you feel. Generally speaking with many of the cones, once the patients feels strong heat - it is too late.

All that said, there are practitioners and styles who purposely burn the moxa deeper into the skin. And with techniques such as thread moxa or "okyu" you do burn the moxa into the skin, but all the patients feels is a slight pinch. Some feel that the resin and possibly the bruising as well creates a stronger response. I've seen this more when practitioners treat themselves than I have when they treat others - and possibly more with Japanese practitioners than otherwise, but there are many different views on these issues.

If you are doing multiple cones, pulling the cones off earlier rather than later is fine as the area will heat up more from repetition than it would if were doing moxa on the needle or other techniques.

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