Gluten allergy. Nothing helps :/

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Gluten allergy. Nothing helps :/

Published on 10-17-2019


"anon76575" - this is their first post.

Hallo. As i wrote in topic i have gluten allergy. Chinese medicine connect this allergy mostly to spleen and dampness/ phlegm. I have a lot of herbs that eliminate dampness and phlegm but they don’t help me. I have all the time bad mood, i feel anger, have no energy and symptoms of ibs. My father have these symptoms as well. I used pinella, magnoliae, poria and white atractylodes but this herbs help me not really. I fell often heat in my body- even more than dampness. When i avoid gluten food and i take milk thistle all symptoms go away. Maybe its toxic heat? I only want to have some kind of herbs that help me to eat sometimes food which contain gluten. My tongue is always swollen and have strange white coating with dots but i see this coating only on the back of the tongue. Tongue have always red tip- it indicates heart fire?. I hear noises in my left ear (pulsation) and my right eyelid often twitches. Can someone help me to diagnose what is wrong with me ? if will have diet for long time- 2 years for example, can i get rid my gluten sensitivity? I have 32 years and i’m male.


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comment by "ChadD" (acupuncturist)
on Oct 2019

When you say…

Wojtek_Gard:

When i avoid gluten food and i take milk thistle all symptoms go away

How quickly do the symptoms go away? and do you literally mean everything including poor mood, anger, etc., or just the ibs symptoms? What happens if you simply avoid gluten and don’t take any herbs? What happens if you use milk thistle and don’t avoid gluten?

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comment by "anon76575"
on Oct 2019

If i only avoid gluten i cant go back to normal state. If i drink milk thistle- but drink not eat 1-2 days without gluten then its all alright( everything dissapears, bad mood as well) . If i take milk thistle but within few days without gluten i can take some seeds od milk thistle and eat some gluten- but not much.I tried with bupleurum, but it doesnt help me. Milk thistle is good for stomach and have cooling properties. My state can be mixed- deficiency with excess. I tried with herbs for kidney yin and yang deficiency but without success too.

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comment by "ChadD" (acupuncturist)
on Oct 2019

So if you only avoid gluten, what exactly improves and what doesn’t. And if you feel absolutely fine without gluten and without milk thistle why is that a problem for you? Avoiding gluten is not that difficult, probably a good thing for many reasons and, honestly, if that’s all it takes for you to feel great you should consider yourself lucky.

That said, I get that you are looking at your assumed gluten sensitivity as some type of weakness that can be worked through with Chinese Medicine. It’s possible, but gluten sensitivities may ultimately be far more complicated, possibly related to pesticide use and or GMO manipulations (even in non wheat substances such as soy) - see ( ).

In short what this means, again, is that if you are completely fine without gluten I would probably just be happy about that, consider yourself fairly lucky and move on.

If, however, you have a host of other sensitivities, then some strengthening of digestion and/or immunity would likely be beneficial. To accomplish this, the best option would be to consult with a fully trained acupuncturist and herbalist in your area and work closely with them for at least 2-5 months. Taking individual herbs as it sounds like you have been doing can not only be harmful it can often be counterproductive vs. properly tailored and balanced formulas.

If milk thistle is helpful for you, it would lead me to think you probably have gallbladder issues and/or some type of liver imbalance. Accordingly perhaps some tailored formulas towards that end might lead to a more complete resolution instead of managing your issues which it seems like you are doing.

I can’t really offer anything definitive without knowing you personally and being able to view other physical diagnostic signs, but something along the lines of li dan wan with xiao yao wan or li dan wan with yi guan jian would be strong possible starting points.

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comment by "anon76575"
on Oct 2019

I havent problems with gall bladder. In my family my father have problems with stomach ulcers and GERD. I have constant belching too. I have episodes with nosebleeds., dark circles under eyes and constant sinusitis. Maybe yi guan jian will be right decision?

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